Meeting documentation

Meeting documents

Licensing Sub Committee
Monday, 23rd April, 2012 4.30 pm

ItemDescriptionResolution
Declaration of interests - members are reminded that following the adoption by Council of the new Code of Conduct, any declaration of interest should be made having regard to the new code. In particular, members must make clear the nature of the interest and whether it is 'personal' or 'prejudicial'.

The Monitoring Officer would like to remind members that when they are considering whether the following items are exempt information under the relevant paragraph under part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972 they must have regard to the public interest test. This means that members must consider, for each item, whether the public interest in maintaining the exemption from disclosure outweighs the public interest in making the item available to the public.
1 ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN
RESOLVED THAT:

Councillor N Smith be elected as Chairman for the meeting.
2 APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
There were no apologies for absence.
 
3 DECLARATION OF INTERESTS
There were no declarations of interests.
 
4 APPLICATION FOR THE REVIEW OF A PREMISES LICENCE
The Chairman introduced the parties and explained the procedure to be followed. The Hearing Regulations 2005 stated that the Authority must allow parties an equal period of time in which to present their evidence. It was agreed that the maximum time for each presentation be 15 minutes.

The Licensing Enforcement Officer presented the report to Members.

There were no questions for the Licensing Enforcement Officer.

Ms K Retallic, Restricted Sales Officer from Leicestershire County Council Trading Standards Service, addressed the Committee. She outlined to the Committee the two occasions on which under age sales had been made, previous history relating to Mr Kareer, husband of the Premises Licence Holder, and the advice visits and training that had been given by the County Officers. She requested revocation of the licence, however she informed the Committee, that should they see no need to revoke the licence, to consider imposing the conditions specified in the application for review on the licence.

There were no questions for the Responsible Authority.

Through her daughter, Mrs Devi, Premises Licence Holder, addressed the Committee. She explained to Members that her husband had realised that he had made a mistake and that he was now fully trained. She explained to the Committee that her husband did not feel competent at completing the refusal log and had asked her to help him, but she had advised him to be responsible for all his sales. She informed the Committee that all the staff were now trained and that, even customers who looked over the age of Twenty One were asked for ID.

Following questions from Members, Mrs Devi advised the Committee that:

Mrs Devi covers the selling of items and Mr Kareer shelf stacks.

That on the occasion of the test purchase Mr Kareer felt that the purchaser was older than twenty one and he had now been advised to ask for ID no matter how old they looked.

That they did not live above the shop, they worked from 2pm in the afternoon through to closing time at 10am and that the other employee covered the morning hours.

Mrs Devi would provide cover for the other employee during their leave.

In a response to a question from the Members, Karen Retallic advised the Committee that the test purchasers are asked to work to a code of practice and should be representative of the age that they are. All test purchasers have a maximum age of 16½ years and on the last occasion the test purchaser was 15 yrs old. She also advised members that the training pack contained example pictures of how test purchasers could look older than they are and that she felt that the training was not understood.

There was no closing statement from the Responsible Authority.

The Legal Advisor advised all parties that the committee may be minded to either suspend or revoke the License for sale of alcohol. This would have no effect on any other age restricted sales. He also informed the Premises Licence Holder that if the Committee were to suspend the Licence this would be for a set time period and if the Committee where to revoke the Licence, then they would not be able to sell alcohol until a new application had been made and permitted.

Mrs Devi explained to the Committee that the mistake had been made by Mr Kareer and that she would ensure that no further mistakes would be made. They would always check ID and that she would spend more time in the shop than her husband.

At 5.10pm the Sub Committee adjourned to consider its decision and re-convened at 5.21pm to ask further questions of clarity.

Following questions for Members, Mrs Devi advised the Committee that she had owned the shop in Coalville for one and half years and that her husband had owned the shop in Loughborough six months previously. She informed the Committee that her husband was not in attendance as the letter was just addressed to her and she did not realise that he could attend.

At 5.25pm the Sub Committee adjourned consider its decision following the responses received to the further questions asked and re-convened at 5.40pm.

At the request of the Chairman of the Committee, the Legal Advisor informed the applicant of the Committee's decision.

RESOLVED THAT:

The Licence be revoked for the following reasons:-

The sale of alcohol to children was a serious matter and Members did not believe that the premises licence holder took the issue seriously.

There had been numerous warnings to the premises licence holder and the County Council Trading Standards Department had offered training and assistance. Mrs Devi had failed to engage fully with the responsible authority.

Although there had been two further test purchases which had been unsuccessful the Refusals log had not been completed as required which showed a continuing disregard for the law.

Members were also concerned that the standard of training that Mrs Devi was capable of providing to her staff was insufficient and incoherent. Members also noted that on previous occasions of underage sales the staff responsible had supposedly absconded abroad.

Members noted that Mr Kareer, the husband of Mrs Devi, had a previous record of underage sales at the former property in Loughborough and that Mr Kareer spent a considerable amount of time in the premises by himself.

Members considered whether it would be appropriate to suspend the licence and impose conditions including a requirement for training but felt that the disregard for the law was so serious that it was necessary to revoke the licence in order to promote the licensing objectives.
Published on Monday, 30th April, 2012
The Meeting closed at 5.45pm.
Councillor L Spence left the meeting at 4.45pm.

Attendance Details

Present:
Councillors D Everitt, G Jones and N Smith.

In attendance: Councillors R Johnson and L Spence.

Officers: Mr A Cooper, Mr D Gill, Mrs C Hammond & Mr S McGinty.

Responsible Authority: Karen Retallic, Restricted Age Sales Officer and Mark Wicks, Alcohol and Tobacco Control Officer.

Premises Licence Holder: Mrs K Devi and Miss R Kareer, Daughter and Interpreter